(001) James Curniss (B) ?. ?. - (D) ?. ?.

(002) Edward Curniss (B) ?. ?. - (D) ?. ?.

(590) William Curness (B) 1766. ?. ?. - (D) 8th Feb 1839. Lambeth. London.

The first record I have for the name Curness was the christening of a John Curness in St Katherine by the Tower, London on 5th August 1735 (see Christening Attachment (CA 001)) (all that is left today is the exposed crypt near St Katherine's Dock). His parents were John and Mary. In reading the document, the date of the day of the month is on the left hand side and the age of the child in days is on the right hand side, thus according to the document if I have read it right, John's christening was the 5th of August so therefore he was born on the 6th July 1735. Up until the middle of 1837 all details were in parish records and I have only found two sets. One for London itself and the other for Greenwich. These parish records only contain details of births, christenings and marriages but none for deaths, so at this stage I have only two records of deaths prior to the middle of 1837. I would estimate that at least thirteen members of the Curness family died between 1795 and 1837 (see list below). Until April 2003 I had no documented proof of anybody living in the period between the christening of John Curness in 1735 and the marriages of James and Edward above, until among a some of the certificates I have purchased over the years, were two death certificates for an Elizabeth Curniss and a William Curness who died in 1838 and 1839 respectively. At first I had believed Elizabeth to be the daughter of James and Ann Curniss and William to be the first son of William and Charlotte Curniss/Curness. As it turns out William and Elizabeth were both in their seventies when they died, maybe a husband and wife. She could have been a spinster but not having any proof, I will stay with the former idea. They both died as paupers in the Lambeth Workhouse, (I have recently added William to the tree for it is a possibility that he was related in some way to James and Edward maybe a brother or a cousin). William was born around 1766 and Elizabeth around 1768 and James and Edward must have been born around the same time. I do not know the origins of James and Edward or their relationship but I guess brothers or as with William, at least cousins, as Edward's wife Harriet was a witness at James's second marriage to Catherine Watson. Edward's contribution to the tree did not go far as he and his wife Harriet had five daughters and a son that I know of. But I am certain there were other members of the family around at the time for there were two ladies for whom I have marriage certificates, one of which married in 1819 and the other in 1850, who for a long time I could not tie into the tree. But thanks to my son Mark, I have now tied the earlier marriage and it's participants to Edward Curniss and his wife Harriott, but the second still remains a mystery (see Marriage Attachment (MA 002)). This new site has also opened up a lot of new information that pertains to the Curness Clan, such as dates of births and marriages, most of which I have added to the site. It has also opened up a few more unknown facts which will need some work done on them.

This is the list of people I believe died between 1796 and 1837.

(1) Ann Curniss (nee ?)

(2) Elizabeth Curniss

(3) James Curniss

(4) Catherine Curniss (nee Watson)

(5) Catherine Curness

(6) Edward Curniss

(7) Harriott Curniss (nee Moore)

(8) Edward James Carnis

(9) James Curness

(10) Hannah Curness (nee Parkins)

(11) Charlotte Curness

(12) James Curness

(13) Hannah Curness

(14) George Henry Curness

(15) William Edwin Curness

I have now found two entries for burials and although they don't give much information about the deceased except the name and age, I do believe them to be the people I have highlighted.

The difference in the spelling between Curness and Curniss was due I believe too most people at the time being unable to read or write and most documents were written down phonetically by clerks or clergy. I have the Curness name written down as Carness, Carnis, Cairness, Curneys and Curnett and I am sure there are others.